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  1. Sam I Am
    May 23, 2009 at 9:06 am | #1

    Hello again, hope things are well with you.

    You say that “You can never know the truth”.

    Is that absolutly true?

  2. Lone Wolf
    May 23, 2009 at 7:54 pm | #2

    Hey, you just blew up my computer! :)

    First of all, I would never say anything is absolutely true. Second: You can believe “X” is true but all you have to go on is your experiences, your flawed experiences. “X” may not be in reality true, but only from your perspective and your experiences seem true.

  3. Sam I Am
    May 23, 2009 at 11:16 pm | #3

    You believe that truth is relative, yet that in itself is a truth statement, which contradicts itself I might add.

    Also I think it is very unintelligent to say that you would never say anything is absolutely true. Is it not absolutely true that gravity exists?

    And to say ““X” may not be in reality true, but only from your perspective and your experiences seem true.” implies that there is an absolute truth about my belief, if you can say that my belief is untrue, in your so called “reality”.

  4. Lone Wolf
    May 24, 2009 at 1:30 pm | #4

    I would never say anything is absolutely true because that requires absolute certainty and to have absolute certainty means that you are completely unwilling to comprehend the possibility that your wrong and if evidence comes around that says your wrong and you would ignore is because you are absolutely certain that your right.
    I am certain abouts some things but I am not absolutely certain about anything.

    Is there an absolute truth? Depends on what your talking about.

    You don’t understand, all you have is your experiences and your perspective. Your experiences and perspective may tell you that “X” is true while some one else’s may tell them that “X” is not true. Unless its subjective (like, say art) your beliefs, his beliefs, my beliefs, anyones beliefs are completely irrelevant to whether “X” is true or not.

  5. Sam I Am
    May 25, 2009 at 8:40 am | #5

    well, I think you can refer back to what I posted on your blog about morality, this is the same debate, just changed a few words is all. What’s moral, what’s not moral, what’s true, whats not true. They go hand in hand. And like I said in your other post, if you think something is moral/true and I think it is not moral/untrue, well we both can’t be correct. It violates the law of noncontradiction.

  6. Lone Wolf
    May 25, 2009 at 11:29 am | #6

    There is a huge difference between believing something and knowing something. I believe things, I don’t know them and I can be (an am about something I just don’t know what they are) wrong.

  7. Sam I Am
    May 25, 2009 at 5:17 pm | #7

    So, you don’t know anything? You just believe that you know?

    That, my friend, is insanity.

    • Lone Wolf
      May 27, 2009 at 1:03 am | #8

      No, insanity is not. “You just believe that you know” (I was going to do a quantum physics joke but its not funny) And I didn’t say I believed I knew, I said I believed, example: I believe “X” is true, I don’t know its true.

      Upon some thought, I do concede sone thing though: mathematics, 1+1=2, 3*3=9, 24/4=6, 7^4 = 2,401 there is no logical or illogical way to change it. Thus it is absolutely true and can be known.

  8. Sam I Am
    May 27, 2009 at 8:02 am | #9

    If you can’t know that something is true, then why believe it? That’s just dumb.

    • Lone Wolf
      May 27, 2009 at 3:50 pm | #10

      *Facepalm*
      Belief and knowledge are two different things
      I’m only omniscient, all I have is the information I have and I can only base my conclusions on the best information I have.

  9. Sam I Am
    May 27, 2009 at 8:06 am | #11

    Oh yeah, so take out the word absolutley.

    Is it true that you can’t know the truth?

    This statement contradicts itself, but you choose to believe it. Again I say, insanity.

    • Lone Wolf
      May 27, 2009 at 3:58 pm | #12

      I didn’t say it was absolutely true, it is a conclusion, a belief.

      • Sam I Am
        May 27, 2009 at 5:52 pm | #13

        A conclusion that you believe to be true. Belief and knowledge go hand in hand, duh.

        I’m finished here. You make no logical sense what so ever.

        • Lone Wolf
          May 29, 2009 at 2:01 pm | #14

          No, belief and knowledge are two different things. Example: I believe that alien life exists some where out there in the universe and I also believe that no alien life (except maybe microbes on meteors) have ever visited earth. I don’t literally know though.

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